Re: suggestions Consider'd..

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: : : Well, I wanna start out by saying how much I love the mod, I used to play lmctf : : : and nh, but I find that playing lmctf isn't as fun as it used to be, most of the : : : servers are overcrowded and filled with jerk players, but I never find anything : : : like that on the nh servers, so gotta thank The bats, and the regulars on the : : : servers... thanks guys :D : : Well, Thanx! and yer Welcome! <from all the bats!> : Ditto. : : : ok, I just wanted to give a little idea of what I'd think : : : would be cool to see, to be added to later releases of nhs... : : We are forever looking for just the right goodies to add, suggestions are always welcome. We have spent alot of time considering may things but the biggest thing to consider is the balance, if we give to one side we must give to the other something to counter it. ..or give it to both, like the IR. : : : --- : : : 1. A hook for the marines would be nice pred and since the pred has farther : : : jumping it would even out somewhat. : : The pred's jumping is not all that useful, it does let it get to a few places a little easier, but most don't use this. : : The hook is planned for the pred'. Something sort of vissable so as not to be totaly invisso'. The counter for this we do not have. The Flares were originaly aimed at this as a balance but they are NOT effectively used by marines. They seem to chuck'em about without thought or use them stupidly to light up other marines. like chucking them at a marine that is camped out at a cross-road, killing his cover.. : The jumping is great for getaways. I can be off before most marines know I'm gone. : Rocket jumping with the predators new overload feature will make most parts of any : map accessible. : The hook has been discussed but will probably not make it into the next release. : : : : : 2. For persons with 500+ ping no visable self flashlight so they have : : : somewhat of a chance of staying alive near the pred, but the problem with : : : that is the other marines would have a hard time knowing where they are so : : : maybe that isn't such a good idea :D : : hehe, not a bad idea. but yes, might be morelikley to surprise other marines and get themselves killed. BUT, lots of marines have learned to navigate without much light and are equaly liable. : : I kinda like it. : Ping based handicapping is difficult to implement. I prefer skill based or score : based handicapping. : : : 3. Predator has a limitation of suicide, like less say 3 times max and someone : : : else randomly becomes the predator, most people abuse the unlimited suicide : : : the pred has when you don't lose any frags when you die. : : : That has happened to me many times. : : Some do abuse this, but if you play long enought you notice that they are not that great a player anyway and do get killed soon enough. Where it becomes a problem is with better players that do it. In one exagerated example on player used the KILL cmd when ever they got hurt somewhat. We created the "b" version patch for this, effectively taking the KILL cmd out. In the next version a KILL issued by the pred' effectively passes the pred' to another and logs them as not being eligible to get the pred' back that way. (if only 2 players did this there would be no pred' 'til someone else joins) : : Getting back to "suicide", the in-game teleport was ment to help this and make lava suicide escapeable, accidents -do- happen. The tele' could have a few more like say 3 or 5, and suicide passes ped'. It turns out the tele' system is way more powerful and can make the pred' incredibly hard to kill. So we have left it at this point, as is. : : There are other variations of suicide that can not be easily countered or are quite accidental. I have died as pred' a coupla times now by hitting a marine up close with a rocket and died is my own splash damage. : : We may run another test with suicide = pass the pred', yet. : I think the one shot teleport adds a lot to the game. Using it to trap marines adds a challenge. : Sometimes, I'll even try to set up a telefrag (only successful twice so far). :) : The next version will have predator suicide options. : : : 4. Map Voting so you can vote to skip the level, or vote to skip to a level. : : This one is fluff, could be there, doesn't need to be there.. most whine about lava/slime maps but "is part of the game". Only suggestion is "think before you leap.." ..haR! Some are very good at dodging, but not so good at where they dodge too ...skipping a map because of this gives them an advantage. This them throws out the balance designed in. Thse persons would dominate non-lava/slime maps, yet not on laval/slime maps. : : What we are planning is a twin or possibly triple map list. Fewer players use the small-map list, more players and it slides onto bigger maps. Alot of players and we go to real big maps and 2 predators and team chat for both.. a good possiblity of this third variation. : : Generaly NH "likes" a shade larger map per player. Too small and the marines get slaughtered as they have little room to get weapons/armor. : Not next release, but probably the one after that. : : : 5. New maps :D : : Aw man, I wished -I- thought of this one.. <sigh> : : : 6. A airfist for the marines for a defensive weapon agaist the pred, and also to get : : : out of your way, or to defect their rockets back at them because they are attacking : : : you for no reason. This also could take place of the Hook since it would be sort : : : of like rocket-jumping without any doing any damage to yourself. Maybe you could also : : : make it so it can blow out flares, or just move them away. : : Not bad.. something to keep in mind. : Possible. Definitely not for the next release. : : : 7. Make the invlnerability give a boost of ammo since its more rare in the levels : : : and in most cases hard to get to. : : Currently is IR too, might change. Packs are still around, although not quite what you had in mind tho.. : I'm open to any ideas. However, we only currently use two maps with invulnerability. : : : 8. Give the marines a laser sight so they can turn off their flashlights, and use that : : : to sweap a room for the predator without being seen. : : I kinda like this one, currently one can just wait and let the pred' take a shot or use thier light. The "sight" would alert the pred' to a marine being present, for me this would be enough to get them killed. The marine would still have to switch weapons? Maybe its off hand.. food for thought. : Again, useful. Easy to do. Probably not next release, however. : : : 9. Did I mention new maps? : : Some where put in a test "pak" but none were NH "friendly" makin them "pred' ruled". Realy wanna "learn" a new new "unfriendly" map in the DARK with a pred' or yer ass? Not fun. : : : 10. anyone with a 1000+ ping should be knocked into chasecam or observer mode so there aren't : : : any cheap kills, but it should have a 5-15 second delay. : : Yep, good one.. : I reserve judgement on this one. As I've said, ping based options are difficult to get working : properly. However, I'll look at it. : Probably not for next release, however. : : : : --- : : : Thanks for the kick ass mod, BARt... : : Again, yer Welcome.. <from all the bats!> : : : btw, any replys, please email me. I try to check this as much as I can but : : : I'd say I check it about every other week so it will take some time to reply. : : The purpose of the msg board is for others to share in yer wisdom.. or to rant on the lack there of. 8-) : I've already replied with a longer message explaining some of my reasoning, etc. : Look forward to your reply. : /bruce

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